Dealers of car:
Pilling Motor Group ltd

SCAM


i created this blog as quick as i can, so text for now will be very easy, short and strictly. Later i will add additional text, repair grammar, but now, i want to inform all people which wants to buy car from this seller, that 
THIS COMPANY DOESN'T EXIST and all webs around are SCAM


First,, what we are talking about,,,  there is fake company Pilling Motor Group ltd, which try to sell cars with very good price. Source of cars are leasing companies. They have very good conditions of contracts, half price first,  garantee time for return car and so on. They selling cars to other sellers of cars but they have no problem to sell car to private person, too ,, even no VAT, tax or any other additional fee. 
So, if someone find this company,, it looks like dream contract.  The problem is, that everything is just fake..     why ? 

FAKE company webpages: 



They always copy photos and information about car from other "official real" sellers of ex-leasing cars.  So you can see real cars, real VINs, but with much lower price than on pages of other sellers. They used photos for example from carmanager.be .
 Now, buyer should start to be carrefouly, because difference of price is huge. Anyway, many people dont try to find the same car on other web pages.



What we can see ..   VAT number GB 197006749. 
easy to check if company exist with this number : http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/vies/vatResponse.html
VAT number is valid with the same company name.

and what about EXPERIENCES of other people on internet? you can google very easy one of the biggest forum about cars, mycarforum or  liveforspeed.   

https://mycarforum.net/forum/topic/Anyone-used-pmotorgroup.net-to-buy-a-car/
https://liveforspeed.uk/lfs.net/forum/Does-anyone-have-any-experience-buying-from-Pilling-Motor-Group-Ltd/#

experiences are so amazing.
there is nothing why not make contract with this company ..   

So,, let's find why this company is fake.. 


first ,, they use more domains for presenting of company, this is not strange, but they use different domain for email communication : 



Serious company will send email from official domain..  Domain pmotor.info doesn't have any web page and you cannot confirm if this email is owned by PMG company.  This was also reason why i start check this company more deeper. 

Official address on webpage is Unit 35, Pages Industrial Park , Eden Way, Leighton Buzzard LU7 4TZ United Kingdom
But official address from VAT verification is  28 RUCKLERS LANE, KINGS LANGLEY, HERTS, WD4 8AU

Sure,, they can use different address for comapny and for showroom for example, but official address should be mentioned on webpage.  And it is strange to not use office address in email communication. 

So, lets check experiences of internet users again: 


You can see discussion of NOT NEW users on both forum pages. So of course, you can have feeling that users are not fake and company did not create users only for this post. If you click on logo of pages, you will be transfered to main page of portal where you cane find milions of posts on mycarforum ( so we can say it is one of the biggest or really biggest forum about cars..) or hundreds of thousands of posts in case of LFS.  So where is problem ? 

If you click to check any information about users, you cannot find any information because links are not working.  The same like many other links and icons as connect on facebook, login, search, option pages and also LINKS ON THE BOTTON OF THE PAGE OF MYCARFORUM.   you can click anywhere, nothing will hapenned, because this page was created only for FAKE experiences with FRAUD LOOK OF KNOWN CAR FORUM.   The same we can say about LFS.NET, in this case, page is copyied better and botton links are working.

FAKE FORUM mycarforum.net
REAL FORUM mycarforum.com

Only links on the top, which are forwarded to real forum mycarforum.com are working fine, if visitor want to check if forum is real.  changing of .NET  to .COM is overlooked very easy. 

FAKE FORUM liveforspeed.uk
REAL FORUM lfs.net

in case of lfs,,  domain is completelly different, but page looks pretty the same.


On the REAL forums mycarforum.com and lfs  doesn't exist any page about PMG company.


Next strange thing is that car is always located in Poland, even you can see  B, F, NL state on the car. Ok, this can be ok, but why you have to pay to Poland private bank account if company is registered in UK ?

if you receive contract and invoice ( which definitelly doesn't look like invoice) you will be noticed that you have to use "Pilling" as company name in bank account name, because if not, bank will stop transaction.  Of course this is bullshit and this account is for PRIVATE person. This fake is just to make sure that you are sending money to competent person covered by PMG company. 

Bank Name: ING BANK S.A.
Account name: PILLING JOZSEF VASS
Account number (IBAN): PL 67 1050 1748 1000 0097 1527 1327 (PL67105017481000009715271327)
SWIFT/BIC: INGBPLPW
Address: Ul. Wroclawska 27, 59-220 Legnica, Poland
Additional instructions: Transaction Reference no. xxxxxxx



So what about real company ? 

Because FAKE web pages used the same NAME and the same VAT number,  many informations on internet are real and can be misleading, because real company really do something with cars. They sell Volvo and their other activities around cars can make feeling, that this company really sell ex-leased cars .  But this is not true

Fraudsters make really good job, and you can find many pages with names of owners and CELL phones of fraudsters. Next point where visitors can be sure that company is serious. But you can still find pages with ORIGINAL cell phones to REAL company.


So it is enough to call to them and ask , if they sell ex-leased cars and if information about "fake" company is true... 

THEY CONFIRMED that somebody STOLE AND USE THEIR VAT NUMBER AND NAME AND MADE THIS INTERNET SCAM.










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